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So once again in the server today it was brought up (alleged) that a player was
'camping the pad' with a chopper. Surprisingly this is not a new phenomenon and the need to discuss what defines 'Camping a pad' and what the alleged 'camper' should do so the chopper feeling 'camped' may lift off with confidence.

When trying to cap the flag at Main Entrance and a player spawns and jumps in the chopper on the pad what should I or someone in this position do? I hope we can get some feedback on this soon.

Today as an example I left Main altogether and flew to the other side of the large cooling towers towards Reactors. Unfortunately, two jets on the other team were there and I pulled up alongside a cooling tower for cover. As one of the jets began attacking me I started to fly around the tower real close for protection. Now I was in between both cooling towers and saw that the chopper had lifted off and was Flying between the flag building and the construction building. I rolled back around the tower in the opposite direction as the jet had passed. From the Warehouse side of the cooling tower I fired on the chopper and destroyed it. Soon after I was accused of pad-camping. I felt that was an unfair accusation. I think I did the right thing leaving Main altogether and right away.   That incident lead to this post.

As a 'victim' of pad camping the tactic I frequently use is the "stay-put" or 'don't lift-off" philosophy. When it is just myself and few other players this works pretty well. I don't lift off until I know the 'camper' has left the area or become distracted by something else.  When the server is populated the disadvantage can be a ground-pounder rolling up on me in a tank or APC or even in an FAV loaded with C-4. Bottom line is....I choose when I lift-off and make myself a target."Some days your the windshield, some days your the bug".

I don't know why the font size changes or how to fix it...Sorry!
(12-30-2017, 11:36 PM)Ricko276 Wrote: [ -> ]So once again in the server today it was brought up (alleged) that a player was
'camping the pad' with a chopper. Surprisingly this is not a new phenomenon and the need to discuss what defines 'Camping a pad' and what the alleged 'camper' should do so the chopper feeling 'camped' may lift off with confidence.

When trying to cap the flag at Main Entrance and a player spawns and jumps in the chopper on the pad what should I or someone in this position do? I hope we can get some feedback on this soon.

Today as an example I left Main altogether and flew to the other side of the large cooling towers towards Reactors. Unfortunately, two jets on the other team were there and I pulled up alongside a cooling tower for cover. As one of the jets began attacking me I started to fly around the tower real close for protection. Now I was in between both cooling towers and saw that the chopper had lifted off and was Flying between the flag building and the construction building. I rolled back around the tower in the opposite direction as the jet had passed. From the Warehouse side of the cooling tower I fired on the chopper and destroyed it. Soon after I was accused of pad-camping. I felt that was an unfair accusation. I think I did the right thing leaving Main altogether and right away.   That incident lead to this post.

As a 'victim' of pad camping the tactic I frequently use is the "stay-put" or 'don't lift-off" philosophy. When it is just myself and few other players this works pretty well. I don't lift off until I know the 'camper' has left the area or become distracted by something else.  When the server is populated the disadvantage can be a ground-pounder rolling up on me in a tank or APC or even in an FAV loaded with C-4. Bottom line is....I choose when I lift-off and make myself a target."Some days your the windshield, some days your the bug".

I don't know why the font size changes or how to fix it...Sorry!

Below is the rule as written.

9. RAPING CHOPPER PADS WITH AIRCRAFT IS NOT ALLOWED!
shortcut: PAD
Explanation:
A. You must wait for a chopper to be AT LEAST off the pad and in flight before aircraft can engage them. 
 Fishing = circling a chopper pad waiting for take off to attack enemy choppers, is NOT Allowed. The pad warning will Apply.
B. You are not allowed to kill a chopper on the Reactor/Main Chopper pad even if they're stealing the chopper. (UNLESS FIRED UPON FIRST)
C. Attack helos are ONLY SAFE When Repairing Over One of the UNCAP Pads OR
IN the chopper ON the pad at Main Or Reactor Upon INITAL LIFT-OFF ONLY
D. You are NOT SAFE GOING BACK to Main or Reactor pads for repair, from opposing jet or chopper attack.



In my opinion, you were not circling the pad, so there was no violation. You were far enough away to allow the chopper to take off and engage. They could have easily gone behind and around the three story, or the other direction of Warehouse. Either way, per your explanation, you did not engage them until they were up and flying.

Boss.
Boss_Warrior, thank you for providing quick feedback on this topic.

In my personal experiences lots of players in an attacking chopper do one of just a few things unless they begin to get attacked by one of my teammates or become distracted by a 'shiny object' elsewhere.

1)They will fly backwards away from the pad (but still in range) and begin to hover, watching the pad. In these cases I try to 'wait them out' because 9 out of 10 times they will see I am not lifting off and they will then leave (breaking the line-of-sight or the 'firing-line') giving me an opportunity to take off and hide behind something as I get farther away.

2) They will leave the immediate area, but just go behind the nearest building (completely out of sight) and turn around to watch the pad area. If I lift-off "its on", but if I remain on the pad they then go farther away and repeat. I can't expect them to forget entirely that a chopper is about to lift-off and begin looking for them!

3) They will fly in a circle directly above the pad for a short time!!! Before flying off and doing something else. When a 'regular' player does this I assume its just a joke making the pilot on the pad wonder "is he or ain't he gonna shoot me on the pad". LOL You don't always know at the time who is in the other chop so for a few moments its kinda interesting to see if they know there is a rule or not.

Something for a pilot feeling camped to try is to 'cycle through the camera views' even using the 'left-CTRL' / 'free-look' and try to locate enemies before lifting-off. Sometimes I will even get out and look (especially high above me) to see if anyone is around before taking off.

Beware of the guys who land behind Warehouse (not capping the flag) and just sit there waiting for you to lift-off! "pitch a friggin' tent" cuz that's 'camping the pad' IMO. Camera view is mostly blocked due to trees. If you lift-off, do so facing Warehouse and be ready to dodge or fire! Tvs don't go through trees (usually) so you can just 'dip back down' to the pad and escape while they are reloading.

Happy New Year!

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